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  And then it hit me: we were abused

  by Anders Andersen in

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  2. beliefs

  from a psychcentral (run by mental health professionals): a familiar item on a list of 7 types of parental abuse :.

  spiritual abuse.

  has the child experienced:dichotomous thinking – dividing people into two parts: those who agree with the parent and those who don’t.

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  When I read the list of signs, I thought you meant JW.org being a 'parent' and the JW's being the 'children'. And yes, it was abuse. When you are NOT allowed to think your own thoughts, that's criminal and abusive. Even when you have parents that really love you, when you grew up in this religion you have been caged.

  And the feelings of people abused like this can be as strong and overwhelming as the feelings of people who have been physically abused, and so can be the effects on the life. It can make you ill. The feeling of not being possible to live the life you want can make you physically ill, and cause a lot of mental and physical troubles. So no need to apologize for anything you wrote.
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  US vs THEM

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i still remember that feeling.

  thank god it's gone for good.

  i used to be part of us witnesses.

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  Great poem, really.

  And Eckhart Tolle is the best if you want to understand how religion and 'us vs them' is only an ettempt of EGO trying to feel better.
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  Letter about changes in book 100 year kingdom

  by Rather Be the Hammer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yesterday a letter was read in our congregation.

  it said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'god's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.. this book is only ...how old?

  two years?

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  @fastJehu nice list!

  @darkspilver... did I say something wrong? I just told here what was read in the kingdom hall. Because I think it's ridiculous that the books need updating so often and soon now and I thought it was 'news' that there was an official letter about it. Did not make any assumption about how and what the changes were... maybe YOU expected it to be more.

  And for the other thread I started: i thought it was ridiculous that JW don't blink an eye about lots of things, (like children's abuse) but when the Calendar is not to be continued they're in shock. Stupid.

  Really I don't see any 'smoking guns'
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  Letter about changes in book 100 year kingdom

  by Rather Be the Hammer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yesterday a letter was read in our congregation.

  it said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'god's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.. this book is only ...how old?

  two years?

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  Yesterday a letter was read in our congregation. It said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'God's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.

  this book is only ...how old? Two years? And already the paper version is better not to be used any more.

  😳
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  Dutch assembly hall dedicated today...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone visited swifterbant or the video stream at the local kh?.

  any high- or lowlights?.

  asked my inwife if the new hall is nice (i know it's not).

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  Yes, I saw the streaming on Sunday. I thought David Splanes talk was not that bad indeed. I especially liked the quote he made (someone said that to him) : "The truth is the truth, no matter who tells it." Yes sir. Even if so-called apostates tell the truth, it is still truth, right?!

  The hall itself was not really shown in the streaming. Not much to see there, I guess.

  It's very simple. They said that's the new style for all Assemblyhalls to be built, and it is because the money is gone can go to countries where there's greater need of kingdom halls.... right.

  There are wooden chairs , more like benches (5 seats on one set of legs (?) don't know how to say this in English) - and also for the special assembly days NO opportunity to bring your own chair! For the regional conventions you CAN bring your own chair, but there is not a lot of space for them, and there will be NO 'chair' cards given in advance any more, so I suppose if you need a special chair, you have to fight for a spot.

  I always need a special chair, so I think that means no more assembly days for me then.
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  What will Tony say?

  by konceptual99 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  genuine picture from a convention in holland.

  what will tony say?!.

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  That's the actual JW nameplates. And bro. tulips is really a brother and not an outsider/visitor.

  I was on another convention and saw a LOT of tight pants! And that's the most 'old-fashioned' convention in The Netherlands, the northern regio. So Utrecht convention must have been 'worse'.
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  Dutch convention: disassociation in broader perspective

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today at the utrecht international convention in holland there was no "word in spanish" about dissassociation.. "we avoid any contact with dissassociated witnesses.

  not only sinners, but in a broader perspective, also inactive witnesses".. there was a lot of noise in the hall direct after that moment.. so, no fading escape in the near future, i expect.. g..

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  Ah, that's right didn't think of that.
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  Dutch convention: disassociation in broader perspective

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today at the utrecht international convention in holland there was no "word in spanish" about dissassociation.. "we avoid any contact with dissassociated witnesses.

  not only sinners, but in a broader perspective, also inactive witnesses".. there was a lot of noise in the hall direct after that moment.. so, no fading escape in the near future, i expect.. g..

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  Also I noticed in the video that in the Dutch translation (voice over) they used the word 'Disfellowshipped' in the announcement. I thought the announcement always is: so and so is no longer one of JW.

  But they said: 'Sonya Ericsson is disfellowshipped'.

  New (old) light?
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  Dutch convention: disassociation in broader perspective

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today at the utrecht international convention in holland there was no "word in spanish" about dissassociation.. "we avoid any contact with dissassociated witnesses.

  not only sinners, but in a broader perspective, also inactive witnesses".. there was a lot of noise in the hall direct after that moment.. so, no fading escape in the near future, i expect.. g..

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  In Zwolle it was said slightly different but even more harsh (I knew what to expect and it was worse than I expected.) 'What if someone is not df'd because sometimes that happens, when a person is or becomes inactive, they have not been disciplined.... '? No contact.

  There was not really a reaction.

  Also 'loyalty to god above family' was emphasised very much. They said it about five or six times . And 'one word' to someone df'd could mess up the usefulness of 'shunning' so really, do not say one word to these people.
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  Syllabus

  by Duncan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  haven't posted in years, but thought i would today, since something reminded me of this story..

  it's 1970 in our london-suburb congregation and it's the circuit overseer visit.

  as part of his talk on the saturday night this co - john anderson, anyone remember him?

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  Rather Be the Hammer

  That is very funny. Don't know how many years you lost to the cult, but at least you have a good laugh now. 😂